Senate candidate Raybould talks health care, immigration, changing Nebraska politics

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October 23, 2018 - 3:38pm

Jane Raybould wants to replace Republican Deb Fischer as one of Nebraska's United States Senators.


Raybould works in management at the family-run grocery store chain. Served on the Lincoln City Council and Lancaster County Board. Nebraska Democrats selected her as the candidate for United States Senate to oppose incumbent Deb Fischer.

(Read Raybould's NET News Campaign Connection profile.)

Her opponents are Republican incumbent U.S. Senator Deb Fischer and Libertarian Party candidate Jim Schultz.

We spoke with Raybould in a wide ranging interview covering health care, immigration, and her view of how politics in Nebraska adjusted to the Trump era.

The complete transcript follows.


Campaign Connection 2018 is the home for NET News coverage of the 2018 elections.


Jane Raybould (Photo: NET News)

Read our
Campaign Connection
Profile of Jane Raybould HERE.


Other Resources

Coverage of the Fischer/Raybould Debate

Raybould for Senate web site

Raybould for Senate Facebook

KETV "Chronicle" interview with Raybould

May Primary Election Results


Read our
Campaign Connection 
profile 
of Deb Fischer HERE.


 

Website for Libertarian Party candidate Jim Schultz

 


Bill Kelly, NET News: Have the reasons you've want to be elected to the U.S. Senate changed at all as the campaign has advanced and actually as history has evolved in the past year?

Jane Raybould: Well, I certainly see a truly energized group of Nebraskans as we've been traveling all throughout the state of Nebraska. Nebraskans are doing things they've never done before. And I contrast it with running for lieutenant governor in 2014. I say the political landscape is so different in 2018 because Nebraskans are sharing with me the concerns they have and the direction our country is going.

Raybould: And so they're emailing, phoning, writing our senators, our Congress representatives, the state senators. They are volunteering for campaigns. They're phoning and canvassing. And some people are actually even running for office. On the Democratic side in our state of Nebraska, of the Democrats that are running, 60 percent of them are women. And that's a big part of the changing political landscape that we are seeing.

Kelly: What do you think has brought that about?

Raybould: I think the Women's March certainly was a big catalyst in January of 2017. People are energized. People want to be involved politically and engaged. I hear stories in the rural communities and in the urban areas. People are gathering together like-minded groups. I talk about Janet Fox in Kearney, Nebraska, who traveled to Washington, D.C., for the Women's March with a couple of her friends in her book club. They participated in the Women's March. They came back to Kearney, and they've started a Kearney Action Network of 130 people in central Nebraska. And this is stuff that Nebraskans just aren't accustomed to doing.

Raybould: And like I said, people are doing political things that they have never done before in their entire lives. They may have voted, but they're doing things that surprise even me.

Kelly: Are you hearing a change in the types of issues you're hearing about from constituents?

Raybould: The issues have been consistent throughout this entire campaign for me. It's healthcare. It's the increasing cost of healthcare. And the votes in Washington are causing that increasing cost of healthcare. I hear from families that they come in our grocery stores. We see hundreds of thousands of people coming through our doors every single week, and I have the good fortune of getting an earful from quite a few of them. And they share with me it's the cost of healthcare.

Prescription drug prices are increasing, and their monthly premiums are increasing. The families that I talk to find it really devastating. If they have to take their child to the emergency room or emergency care, whatever, then they're faced with maybe a $5,000 deductible that really hurts and sets them back.

So it's the votes that are going on in Washington, D.C. Instead of fixing what's wrong with the Affordable Care Act, they're voting to repeal, repeal, repeal, without a replacement that actually takes care of Nebraska families. And I'd love to share with you my four steps that we should be doing immediately. Don't wait for me to get elected to do these. These things should be done right now to provide relief to our Nebraska families and that they are suffering and hurting.

The first step is we need to end this price gouging by the pharmaceutical companies, and we should hold their feet to the fire, which means we have to penalize them for price gouging. The next step we have to do is we have to be able to negotiate better prices for prescription drugs for Medicare Part D. That impacts the seniors in our state of Nebraska. Plus we should just be using the tremendous buying power of the United States anyway to purchase prescription drugs and make sure that those drugs are then more affordable, working with our existing channel of network of distribution of those prescription drugs. But they should be at an affordable rate.

The third thing we need to do is we need to expand the tax credits, those income tax credits for all families of all incomes no matter what they are, and really focus on small businesses so they have some relief on being able to see a lowered premium. That's what we're hearing that is hurting them. And the last one, we really need to make sure that we utilize physician assistants and nurse practitioners to their fullest capacity as possible, particularly in our rural areas in Nebraska.

Some counties in Nebraska don't even have a primary care physician, and we need to encourage nurse practitioners who are probably already in the communities to give them a greater capacity of treating patients. And of course, rural telehealth, we must expand that as well. And this should provide immediate relief.

And then the next phase is really coming up with a universal healthcare plan. We have to put party aside. There is so much partisan bickering. Washington is broken. We need to elect people who really want to bring change on behalf of the people they represent. And we know it's healthcare. And in order to get some great programs done, we need to put party aside and start solving problems and making sure we reduce the cost of healthcare.

Kelly: Universal healthcare is the dividing line in the sand between parties. And that's a non-negotiable point with what may end up being a majority of the Senate even if you're elected.

Raybould: Well, I'm a businesswoman, and I am deeply concerned about what is going on in Washington right now. We're seeing our federal deficit literally blown up. And since when is it fashionable to steal from our children's future by going into the deficits that we are seeing that this current administration, the current administration and the party in control is creating.

In Lincoln and in Lancaster County, we balance our budgets. We are obligated to do that. And that is what is a big concern about that price tag for universal healthcare. We have to be very concerned and cautious about going forward on that. Those other elements I outlined, right away, that should bring some relief right there to the families that we need.

Then that second phase is reaching across the aisle. I want to be part of the problem-solvers caucus with Republicans and Democrats coming together and working and building on our successes. We are the greatest economy in the entire world. There's no reason why we cannot deliver on that promise and commitment of affordable health care to the people we represent.

Kelly: Want to talk a little bit about immigration. And in hindsight, do you believe the August 8th immigration raids in Nebraska were handled appropriately by federal officials?

Raybould: I have heard from so many families and people in O'Neill the absolutely devastating consequences and the ramifications of that. It is just another clear example of the dysfunction going on in Washington. Why haven't they come up with immigration reform? My opponent, Senator Fischer, has had six years under two different administrations and has gotten nothing done. And this is what is the biggest concern about. In our economy in Nebraska, we depend on a very diverse workforce to get our economy rolling and get the jobs done. One in four jobs in Nebraska is ag-related.

So we need to do everything we can to fix this broken immigration system. And I'm gonna outline what I see as the steps we need to take. Number one, we cannot have open borders. We all acknowledge we cannot have open borders. But we also know that I think it's a national security risk that we do not know and cannot track the 11 million undocumented individuals already in our country.

But what we need to do is secure the borders. Does it include a wall? Probably, in some places where it's practical, and it makes sense. Maybe it's fencing. Maybe it's more electronic monitoring. Maybe it's beefing up security patrols. But I want to make sure it's as economically feasible as possible because after all, we don't want the taxpayers to be stuck with this enormous burden of trying to pay for a wall. It should be practical. And most Nebraskans are pretty practical-minded. You put up the right type of device wherever that situation calls for. So we have to secure our borders.

And then I believe that we have to approach immigration reform piecemeal. I think when everybody says we're gonna try to lump it all together with comprehensive immigration reform, that's when it keeps falling apart. We need to go back and revisit DACA. We have 3,400 young people in our state of Nebraska that are DACA recipients. I'm a godmother to a young man who's a sophomore at Southeast Community College.

These kids are smart. They're well-educated. Why? Because we've invested in their education and they've gotten a great public education right in our state. They're valuable, they're capable, they're competent, they're law-abiding, and they're taxpaying. So we want to retain these young people because they are contributing to our economy. So step one, we need to get them on a continued pathway to legalization and ultimately citizenship.

The next step we need to do right away I would say is we need to open up and make sure that we reach out to high-tech workers. We need to open up that visa lottery and get more high-tech workers. Why? Lincoln and Omaha, we've developed that reputation as the Silicon Prairie. We're a great place and a very cost-efficient place to do a startup and even fail a startup. We want to retain and attract more people to help our thriving economy on that front. And that means we open up that visa lottery.

The third thing that we need to do is really make sure that we open up the guest worker permits as well because our ag economy depends on that. And then the next step would be looking at those 11 million undocumented that are ... We want to make sure that they go probably through the same process maybe as we've done with DACA recipients. We need to get them documented. We need to get them from out of the shadows because it is a security risk. We don't know where they are and who they are and how long they've been here.

But these people are law-abiding, and they're taxpaying, so we want to get them on the right track of legalization. And to do that we need to bring them out from under the shadows. They need to have an authentic Social Security card, not a fraudulent one where they're having the money withheld from their paycheck, but they're never gonna be the beneficiary of it. It's gonna be some other individual with that Social Security number. They need the documentation. Documentation is critical.

So we get those folks on a program. I'm not sure. I'm very open-minded about what that program looks like. Do they pay a penalty? Sure, maybe. But maybe they're on a two-year probationary program like our DACA recipients are. They have to make sure that they're law-abiding, taxpaying, and then they move on to the next step. But you know what, our Nebraska economy depends on these hard-working undocumented. If we kick them out of our state and out of our country, our packing plants would have to close, and the crops in the field would probably rot.

And I'm thinking of the cattlemen, who depend on this workforce to help with calving, or our dairymen, who depend on this. They are a essential part to the success of Nebraska's economy. Let's bring them out from under the shadows.

And really the last step would be embracing E-Verify. I can tell you as our company, we have over 2,000 employees. We've been a participant of E-Verify for about 15 years. We were on a pilot program, and now we're doing it. But that would be that last element that you put in place, because why? That would be sweeping up any individual that we didn't get the appropriate documentation from and get them on the pathway to legalization, and ultimately I hope citizenship. So that's it in a nutshell.

Kelly: In the case of that August 8th raid, Immigration ended up arresting both workers and some of their employers as well. In that context, was that raid handled appropriately?

Raybould: Well, I have to say that I have deep concerns about how that raid was handled. There should've been probably a notification to the owners of the hydroponic plant for tomatoes and produce. They should've had some notification that they are on a watch list and that if they're taking advantage of their workers, that needs to be taken care of and resolved. If they're withholding exorbitant amounts from their paycheck, that needs to be resolved.

I can tell you that I have talked to many Latino groups up in Omaha that are part of the United Methodist Network. And they provide food to about the 133 families that are still suffering from the ramifications of that. And I know the O'Neill community has pulled together. But this is a lengthy process. We're talking about children or young teenagers who are now taking care of their family members because they're U.S. citizens.

And that means that they're trying to make ends meet when the breadwinners have been deported. So it's really creating not only a devastating impact on the families that have been touched by this but also the business owners. If they're in violation, let's call them to task for the violations and give them an opportunity to clean up some of the violations. That seems to me like the most logical step rather than wreaking this havoc not only in the O'Neill community ... I mean, they were contributing to the economic wellbeing of the O'Neill community. These family members had jobs.

I know it sounds like many of the families that had the jobs were being taken advantage of, but we have to resolve that. We have to find solutions to maintain this workforce. And again, we have to come up with immigration reform that brings some of these undocumented into the light with the proper documentation, particularly those that are law-abiding and taxpaying.

Kelly: After the last sets of announcements from the White House, are you satisfied with the changes in the North American Trade Agreement and especially in regard to how they're treating beef, corn, soybeans, other agriculture products that Nebraska produces?

Raybould: NAFTA. I can tell you as a businesswoman how they've approached a resolution to NAFTA doesn't make any sense. I am so glad that they've signed the new United States Mexico Canada Agreement. I think that's a step in the right direction. And there are some things you have to absolutely revisit agreements periodically and fine tune them and upgrade them. Now-

Kelly: So there were things to like in this?

Raybould: There are some things to like in it. The one thing that is not to like is it still has to go through our legislative process. So when Congress is back, they're gonna be taking it up in 2019. And it's the same way with the Mexican government and the Canadian government. They'll have to take it up. But the new changes ... The existing NAFTA is going forward. The new changes won't even ... Our farmers will not see them until 2020 if we're lucky to see that stuff.

There are some modifications. They talked about increasing the cost of labor rate. We all agree that there is this income disparity going on. But the reality it comes as a price tag. So we're gonna be talking about the steel and aluminum tariffs. Well, guess who's paying for any increases. It's the consumer; we pay for that. And so if you want to see that higher labor rate that either Mexican workers are being paid or that this work will be done in our U.S. plants and production facilities guess that means the consumer is gonna be paying that added cost.

So there's always a good and a bad side to this. That means that somebody's gonna be paying those increasing costs of production. I think that's a step in the right direction. I think they needed to upgrade some of the intellectual property, how that is handled between all the countries. I think that's always good, and to upgrade it on the technological advances that have occurred since the 20-plus years that was originally negotiated. So those are steps in the right direction.

Raybould: The farmers are gonna hopefully keep and retain their existing trading partners. Mexico's our number one importer of corn and distillers grain from Nebraska, $1.2 billion worth. Canada is our number one importer of manufactured goods right from our state of Nebraska. They're our key trading partners that impact our state of Nebraska. But I can tell you if I talk to any of my key customers, my grocery customers, the way the administration has talked to Mexico and Canada, it's no surprise that Mexico has been looking for alternative markets to Brazil, Venezuela, and Argentina.

And we know for a fact, talking to some of the key negotiators with NAFTA and Trans-Pacific Partnership, they've been looking for alternatives suppliers. So it's a good step in the right direction.

Kelly: So if tariffs are a specific concern, what can be done as a U.S. Senator beyond just raising the concerns and objections?

Raybould: Well. Just because we've renegotiated this new agreement, the killer part that's impacting our ag industry right now is the tariffs, the steel and aluminum tariffs and the retaliation that we have seen from China. This is having a devastating impact on our farming community. Our farmers are going through the fourth year of a down ag economy. And to have this slapped on them is really adding salt to a wound. We've seen our farming families' incomes cut in half. This is the greatest decrease since the Great Depression.

And our senators, what have they been doing? They have the authority to nullify these tariffs. I know Senator Sasse was a cosigner on a piece of legislation that would have challenged these tariffs and reasserted the authority of the Senate to nullify these tariffs. That's the action that really needs to take place. Senator Fischer had an opportunity and she voted against it. And she cited that there was not a compelling enough reason to stand up for this legislation.

Well, when we have an increasing number of our farmers across the United States committing suicide and when we see the next generation of our producers, our young farmers filing for bankruptcy in our state of Nebraska in record numbers, that's our next generation of producers. And then when we see our farming families struggle with income ...

With the bailout that is being proposed, that $12 billion bailout, our farmers are resilient, they don't want the bailout. They want trade. They want trade. Even with that bailout, I've talked to a farmer in Boone County. They're gonna still lose about $135,000 this year. They're losing $2.50 on a bushel of soybeans. They're gonna be lucky if they get compensated for about $1.65 per bushel.

You know what they're gonna get for corn per bushel? A penny per bushel. We're talking about a severe crisis. And it's gonna take years. It's taken years to build the key trading partners for our soybean market. Bart Ruth is a soybean farmer out of Rising City, and he was also former president of the Soybean Board and also a Republican, by the way. And he said he's been part of those trade missions to really get those key trading partners. This is gonna cause damage, the tariffs, against our key allies and some of our key trading partners. This is gonna take years for us to recover from the damage.

Our farmers are recognized as reliable and resilient and dependable trading partners. This sets us back. And this is the wrong thing. A U.S. Senator should do everything she can to challenge and nullify these tariffs and reassert her authority. Senator Fischer said there was not a compelling enough reason, and for that reason alone she should be fired.

Kelly: Issue a little bit out of left field, but still may affect Nebraska. Do you favor an increased military role in space, has been proposed by the Trump administration if part of that involves development of the role that STRATCOM would have?

Raybould: Well, I certainly support initiatives that utilize STRATCOM to its maximum capacity. We have such capability to be involved in research. I mean, look at the University of Nebraska Medical Center. They are involved in high-level defense matters, utilizing all the biological warfare and the research and study that goes on there right now. We have a wonderful opportunity with STRATCOM. But you know what, I have to tell you, Nebraskans are not really focused on that issue. They're focused on what's going on with healthcare. Our families-

Kelly: I understand, but there are people in Sarpy County who might have a strong interest in it.

Raybould: Well, we have truly-

Kelly: There are a lot of, there a good may jobs in Sarpy County-

Raybould: There is no doubt about-

Kelly: ... tied to STRATCOM.

Raybould: And they will continue to be tied to STRATCOM because there's so many opportunities for us to participate in our military defense. And we will continue to be a frontrunner in doing the things that we do at STRATCOM. But if we're gonna be talking about issues that really impact Nebraskans, that's one of many. We talked about the Silicon Prairie. That's a critical component. I'd love to be able to talk a little bit about net neutrality as well and how that impacts our growing capacity for doing high-tech jobs.

Kelly: If the makeup of the Senate gives Democrats an edge, would you favor blocking or delaying additional federal judgeships through the Trump administration?

Raybould: I would certainly ... I've said this throughout the whole Judge Kavanaugh hearings. I wanted to have an open mind. I wanted to see all the evidence. I wanted to see his body of work both as a judge as well as his previous body of work so I could understand his character. Is he gonna respect the constitution? Is he gonna acknowledge precedence in legal cases? I wanted to keep a very open mind on that, and I want to make sure I understand fully what this individual brings. And is this person gonna be fair-minded? Are they gonna be tainted by politics and partisanship?

And so I promise to bring that same fair-mindedness with me, brain with me wherever I go. I want to look and examine to make sure every candidate, every nominee for any judge position, for the appellate courts or whatever, has the qualities that we expect to be a great judge.

Kelly: Blocking and denying and delaying judgeships in the Senate-

Raybould: That's not what I would support. I want everybody to have a fair and full hearing. I certainly encourage that I. I'm a businesswoman. I tell people I bring my business brain with me wherever I go. I listen to both sides of the issue. I want to see all the evidence. As a businesswoman, I look at a lot of numbers. So I want to see where the numbers are going and what they represent. But I also want to listen to the evidence and what this individual brings, and I want to base it on the qualities and character that they will bring to that job.

Kelly: What's at stake with the appointment of a judge in the current environment?

Raybould: I think what we are seeing, to be very honest with you, is a lot of conservative-mindedness going on in our country. And that is alarming. I don't want to see us to take a step backwards in our civil rights, our human rights. I firmly believe that we have to be very concerned about judges who bring that type of position and I would say too much politics and to what I would hope would be an individual that would look at the law and respect the law.

Kelly: You mentioned net neutrality. What's at stake for rural Nebraska with net neutrality as it currently stands?

Raybould: Well, I think the big issue that when we talk about net neutrality in the rural communities is the expansion of broadband. It's costly. There's no doubt about it. But we want to make sure that those private entities that are offering it to our rural community will actually get the job done without gouging the customers. And net neutrality is really important, certainly for the startups that I mentioned that we are seeing in Omaha and Lincoln. I know Senator Fischer has been a proponent of doing away with net neutrality, saying that it will allow competition and it'll allow the marketplace to make the adjustments.

Well, I have to tell you, the people that are in startups say, "Wait a minute, that's the wrong approach." We need net neutrality so that there is a level playing field so that as a startup company or a software company, I'm not competing against the big cable companies, which by the way, Senator Fischer has received multiple campaign contributions from, that they are gonna be choking that pipeline to allow their product to get to the marketplace and for consumers to have access to it without being restricted.

So I think net neutrality is a critical part of growing what we're considering a very thriving business in our state of Nebraska. And net neutrality is key.

Kelly: When you have concerns about private companies potentially price gouging by providing high-speed internet, what's the appropriate legislative or policy response at the federal level?

Raybould: Well, we have the Universal Service Funds, it's been woefully underfunded, to make sure that we can bring rural broadband. Rural broadband is critical for all kinds of levels for on the educational front to make sure our kids have access to ... On the judicial front. A lot of our judiciary is embracing video arraignments or other ways of dispensing justice when you have a judge in a different county.

So this is really important. Rural telehealth is critically important. So you know what we're seeing is we're seeing a lack of Universal Service Funds and also the Nebraska Service Funds being able to deal with this demand. I think we probably should look at what we did many, many years ago with the Rural Electrification Program. The federal government needs to step in. We know how vital rural broadband is for our farmers and the high-tech gadgets that they have to tell them that the soil content is fine, so it's a good time for them to plant, all the technology that they've embraced to help make their production increase.

We need to make sure that we reach the rural communities to allow them to succeed, but mostly the rural businesses. We want the rural communities to thrive. And we all know that business, it's through the internet. And we need to make sure that they have a level chance of succeeding and keeping and retaining the young people and families and young businesses that are growing and developing in the rural community.

Kelly: Given the choice, and if elected, what are the one or two committees you most want to be appointed to?

Raybould: Without a doubt, it's Agriculture Committee. It is the Agriculture Committee. I'm a businesswoman. We've had our grocery stores for 54 years. We've been a partner with a lot of our local producers. So I know what they go through, the ups and downs and how resilient they are. And so to me, it's critically important. The farm bill. The farm bill is so fundamental to be able to champion that forward. And the sad thing is, it's going nowhere. The farm bill is going nowhere.

It expired September 30th, and there are so many vital programs that our farmers depend on that the funding is frozen. So right now, as our farmers are struggling, the Conservation Easement Program, they're not allowing any new applicants on it. And I'm just thinking of some of these younger farmers if they could have that commitment of a 10- to 15-year payment from the federal government so that they would preserve and protect some of the lands for environmental reasons, that would have helped enhance or supplant some of the income that they're losing.

That funding is not gone, but they're not allowing any new agreements. The funding for say helping veterans who want to be farmers, that's gone. The funding for helping trade promotion, which we so desperately need right now, we need more trading partners, not fewer trading partners, that's gone. And also the Farm Aid funds for rural businesses, that's gone. What we need to do is challenge our current senators. Please do a farm extension. Our farmers need that. Extend the farm bill under the current programming and funding authorization so that our farmers have some relief.

This is another uncertainty they don't need at this time. We need senators who are gonna stand up and do the right thing and work really hard to represent our farming income.

Kelly: And your second choice for a committee?

Raybould: I was thinking I would love to be on the Indian Affairs Committee or Banking and Finance because of my business background. But I've been told that it's not always up to me to determine which ones I get on. But I will fight tooth and nail to be on the Agriculture Committee. It impacts our economy and state of Nebraska, and I feel like I could make a real difference on that committee.

Kelly: As a freshman senator, you would be lucky to get your name on any given piece of legislation. If you were to try and advance and hope something that would be readily identifiable with you after at the end of a first term, what would that be?

Raybould: Well, I have to tell you, it's health care, healthcare, healthcare. But I already have a piece of legislation I want to propose. It's called the Gone Washington Act. This would prohibit any sitting senator to accept or solicit any funding from any organization, trade association, corporation from a committee that they have oversight and regulation oversight on so that it would be a penalty that they would have to find if they accepted any contribution, because you know what, our senators shouldn't be bought. And that's a big problem of what's going on in Washington.

I took a pledge not to accept any corporate PAC money because we see that too many senators have been bought and paid for, and their beholding to their corporations, their special interest groups and their donors and their lobbyists. That does nothing for Nebraskans except have these senators beholding to the special interest groups that are making contributions to their campaign.

So I'd like to see my Gone Washington Act hit the road and be passed so that senators are prohibited from collecting funds from any organization they have regulatory oversight over. And I agree with Senator Sasse. I think Senator Sasse has talked about proposing some very interesting modifications requiring any candidates to submit their income tax filings. I think that's highly appropriate so you can see that the individuals are not beholding to any special interest groups.

And I think for transparency, accountability and disclosure, I think that's critical. And I think that's what Nebraskans want. They want a senator who can't be bought. They want a senator who's always gonna put them first.

Kelly: You mentioning Senator Sasse is a fine segue into my last question. Is bipartisan work still possible in Washington?

Raybould: Absolutely. Absolutely. I think fundamentally if you really want to change what's going on in Washington, you just need to change who we send to represent us. And you need to send people who are not gonna be beholden to special interest groups. You want to send people who are gonna roll up their sleeves and say, "Hey, I want to be on the problem-solvers caucus. I want to work with common sense caucus groups," because if you reach out to your colleagues across the aisle and develop relationships and trust, you can get things done.

You build on the things that you agree on. As a businesswoman, I know that from all the negotiations I've done throughout my entire career. You build on the things you can agree on. You set aside some of the differences to be dealt with at a later time. Or let's keep building on the successes and the elements that we can establish and move forward, and then we'll continue to work on the ones that we are not too convinced on.

But compromise should never be a bad word. That's how our country was founded. Think of the large states versus the smaller states and the compromises they came for the good of the people. I think we need that refreshing change of purpose. And that's why it's important that we elect independent-minded leaders who are gonna put Nebraskans first.

Kelly: Jane Raybould, thank you for joining us.

Raybould: Thank you so much.

 

 

 

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